Nick had been a senior member of the branch for many years and has only recently stepped down. He has promised to advise branch members to support Dave in the election.
I’m sure that this advice will delight his former comrades in Unison disunited left :)
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He is a voice from the past, Lambeth activists are now in control of the branch bringing in socialist policies and increasing membership. We now have more shop stewards than ever before. You should try this in your own yard.
But still no word from the rogue Holmes about his SWP supporters and their breaking up of the BA talks. In his most recent video - I've watched it so you don't have to, martyr that I am - he mentions the striking BA workers but completely ignores their sub-situationist antics. Come on, Mr.Holmes, speak out!
Spartacus
No I am Spartacus or is it the Eagle has landed? Anyway if the branch Secretary of militant Lambeth supports Dave Prentis the why is Rogers Holmes campaign agent? Is this to confuse us?
Eagle has landed
Shock Horror Lambeth Branch Activists don’t all agree with each other on everything! Must go and see if that being reported on news 24
I tried to post this before but it hasn't been put up.
Lambeth LG branch had a hustings and Prentis did not get a single vote. Why is this such a mis-leading article?
Dear anons
LOL:)
Why are you refusing to put up the comment that not a single person voted for Prentis at the hustings for the Lambeth UNISON local government branch?
What the members thought is far more important than a retired joint branch secretary.
Why is it so damned difficult to find any picture of Paul Holmes with a woman union member? I know he fetishises male manual workers, but it's an oddly striking omission.
The militants stating that there was a hustings and that DP did not get a single vote are misleading. There was never a quorate meeting of the branch and the gathering which refered to had around 12 people some walked in from the streets. Reality is that militant is controlling the branch and they bend the rules to make things look there way. A ballot amongst the members would have shown what the members thing but that's against militant dogma.
Spartacus
John Gray,
You need to stop interfering with the lambeth branch. We are doing very well here and our recruitment of new shop stewards in lambeth living is prove that all is working well. Lambeth activists are the best thing that has happened to the branch. An ex secretary may have ideas but he is not there now. He had a following but he has now gone. Why dont you publicise the fact that lambeth activists are recruting more shop stewards every day? There are positive things happening.
Darned difficult to find a picture of the Holmes fellow with a black person either!
The people pretending to be activists in the Lambeth branch is quite amusing. That aside there was nothing misleading about the hustings. There were over 40 people there and of course they were checked to see if they were branch members at the door.
This turn out is as good as the turn out for John Gray's own braches AGM (for which he is now branch secretary). Which is actually a bigger branch than Lambeth.
Now while it would be great if more people turned up at least Lambeth had a hustings (advertised long in advance), which the vast majority of branches didn't, and not a single member in that hustings, or a single steward on the branch committee, voted for Dave Prentis making the title of this blog post totally ridiculous.
the voluntary sector branch secretary is SWP and united left. It has a similar size membership and had only 19 members at its AGM! you must be very thankful you work for a good labour council like lambeth that gives you facility time and full time secondments.
How did you check the people at the "hustings" (12 out 3000) were union members?
your former branch secretary made this comment recently
"I have said this before and will say it again they should be thrown out of any union they represent nothing other than a tiny number of opportunists. A lot of them are bullies and their method is simply based on intimitading ordinary members. I can tell you a few stories about that as I have seen them in action! I hope that when Dave wins again he will be more decisive in dealing with them at branch level".
was he talking about you anonymous?
To be fair, what an ex Secretary says isn't importnat any more.Lambeth activists ( the real ones and not those pretending to be) have been responsible for recruiting more members and there are more shop stewards now than ever before. And to be fair Lambeth activists are interested in saving members jobs and not a pointless election. Worth noting that most Lambeth activists are not in the united left so I don't see the link? Why don't you publicise the progress made by the Lambeth activists and stop allowing regional officials to post stupid comments.
Paul Roberts
"How did you check the people at the "hustings" (12 out 3000) were union members?"
I've already said there were between 40 and 50 people there and it's not hard to check if people are members. You have the membership list and people against that. Out of thost 40 to 50 people not a single one voted for Dave Prentis. Not a single steward on the branch committee voted for Dave Prentis.
The fact is that as many people turned up for the hustings as the AGM for John Gray's branch which he is now branch secretary for, yet he puts up a ridiculous blog post like this. Yes I'd prefer more than 40 to 50 be there out of around 2500 members but the fact is that we were one of the few branches in the country to actually have a hustings and 0% for Dave Prentis is fairly resounding.
As what the former joint branch secretary says now days, I don't think anyone really cares.
"Worth noting that most Lambeth activists are not in the united left so I don't see the link?"
Exactly, the point is that the statement that "Lambeth UNISON members rally around Dave Prentis for General Secretary" now looks totally ridiculous now it's shown that it's only an ex joint branch secretary supporting him and he didn't get a single vote in the branch.
It then looks comical that people are criticising the numbers at the hustings when there were as many as at the AGM for John Gray's branch. As for what the voluntary sector branch is doing, what has that got to do with anything?
Amazing how the Lambeth militants use this blog to argue with each other but then criticise it? John Gray was elected in a democratic way and followed a process which is something they are alergic to. Why don't they advance their childish arguments on their militant tendency blogs? Is it because no one reads them? The rest of us are not interested!! Maybe they should spend more time helping us in the voluntary sector where there are immediate cuts? On second thoughts maybe not!
I've already said there were between 40 and 50 people there and it's not hard to check if people are members. You have the membership list and people against that. Out of thost 40 to 50 people not a single one voted for Dave Prentis. Not a single steward on the branch committee voted for Dave Prentis.
The above was a comment by someone who claims to have been there but she/he dont want to give us their name? How reliable is that? And he says 'there were 40 to 50, but it was more like 30.
How about 'I already said I was there and there were 12 members' this could be as reliable if we don't know who makes the statement? What a joke!
LOL the Lambeth “hooligans” are showing their true colours! They want to ban all comments on a public blog that they don’t like and they now want to witchhunt the SWP/United Left branch secretary of London Voluntary organisations because he only had 19 members at his AGM!
They choose to ignore their former branch secretary complaints of bullying and harassment (what great trade unionists!) and instead boast that 50 (at best) of 2500 members turned up at a hard left “hooligan” Hustings and Dave Prentis “didn't get a single vote in the branch” – not a single vote? Yeah.
What deluded fools. Ha bloody ha
'The people pretending to be activists in the Lambeth branch is quite amusing. That aside there was nothing misleading about the hustings. There were over 40 people there and of course they were checked to see if they were branch members at the door.'
Well I was there and I counted 29 people, 95% white and male, think there were 3 women, some of those attending I have never seen before. If this pretend activist is real then why does't he use his name when writing? Lambeth activists are not interested in this election and that is my point so whether there was 40 or 20 people attending is irrelevant. Stop fuelling some peoples ego by making comments on here?
Hi John,
love the comment from one of the anons that Lambeth Unison are recruiting 'more shop stewards every day'..... touch of the tractor productiion is always up and the production quotas for the latest 5 year plan have been exceeded yet again, despite the lack of sausages in the shops.
I've been involved in the Labour Movement for 30 years and it takes time to build shop stewards organisation. Recruiting Stewards on a daily basis?....roll over Lenin and Stalin.
Dave Draycott
Hi Dave
Well said. These people with their plain silly daftness are a real barrier to change.
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